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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>5. </strong><strong>What would make the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>date</strong></a> a success? A failure? </strong><strong>What could a girl do to make the evening easier?</strong></p>
<p>When it <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/comes/">comes</a> to <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a>&#8216; <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>dating</strong></a> success stories, almost all the answers were only slight variations on a common theme. Our <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> thought it would be a <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/great/">great</a> night if they felt comfortable, enjoyed the conversation, felt attracted to the girl in question, felt as though they had connected with her in some way, and wanted to see her again.<span id="more-344"></span></p>
<p>&#8220;I know it&#8217;s been a success if I get a nice, long good-night kiss at the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/end/">end</a> of the evening,&#8221; said one <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/respondent/">respondent</a>. The <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> would consider the night a flop, however, if they were bored, impatient for the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>date</strong></a> to <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/end/">end</a>, and unmoved by their companion intellectually, sexually, or emotionally.</p>
<p>What can you do to keep the ball rolling? In a word, participate. &#8220;Things go much more smoothly if the girl gives you some input— if <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> has opinions and contributes to the evening&#8217;s activities.&#8221; Hear, hear. When it <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/comes/">comes</a> to the early stages of <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/romance/">romance</a>, good things hardly ever come to those who sit on their lazy behinds and wait.</p>
<p><strong>6. What will he say at the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/end/">end</a> of the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>date</strong></a> if he&#8217;s going </strong><strong>to call again? What if he&#8217;s not?</strong></p>
<p>We suspected it all along: Whether a <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guy/">guy</a> means it or not, he&#8217;ll say those three little words: I&#8217;ll call you. At least that&#8217;s what 25 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> of the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> we polled said. The rest of them were more honest. &#8220;If I really want to see her again, I&#8217;ll say something specific, like what are you doing next weekend, or I&#8217;ll call you on Tuesday and we can make plans,&#8221; said one <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/respondent/">respondent</a>. &#8220;If I&#8217;m not interested, I try to keep it vague—thanks, I had a nice time, I&#8217;ll talk to you sometime.&#8221; And then there was the small percentage of <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> (5 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a>) who would refuse to say they&#8217;d call, even if they planned to. Why? Who knows? Why the hell do they do anything anyway?</p>
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<p><strong>7. </strong><strong>If he planned to call, how long would he wait? Would he be turned off if I called <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/first/">first</a>?</strong></p>
<p>Our basic rule of thumb: If he hasn&#8217;t called in a week, you can pretty much write him off. Forty <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> of our <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> said they&#8217;d call in three days, about 35 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> said two days, and an ardently infatuated 23 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> said they&#8217;d call the next day. Only 2 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> said they&#8217;d wait longer than a week.</p>
<p>A whopping 90 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> said that they wouldn&#8217;t be offended at all if the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> called <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/first/">first</a>; on the contrary, most said that they&#8217;d be flattered. &#8220;I&#8217;<a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">d love</a> it,&#8221; said one <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guy/">guy</a>. &#8220;<a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">She</a>&#8216;d be at my mercy.&#8221; <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/great/">Great</a>, another Cro-Mag on the loose.</p>
<p><strong>8. </strong><strong>Are <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> wary of <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/women/">women</a> on the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/rebound/">rebound</a>?</strong></p>
<p>From everyone, the response was a resounding yup. &#8220;There are certain symptoms germane to heartbroken <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/women/">women</a> that you look out for,&#8221; said one <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guy/">guy</a>. Like what? we asked. &#8220;Bruises,&#8221; one droll fellow replied. &#8220;Scars,&#8221; said another. Besides those two funny, funny comics, though, there were some specific warning signs that seemed legit. About 25 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> of these <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> listed skittishness and unpredictability at the top of their lists. &#8220;A <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> on the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/rebound/">rebound</a> carries all kinds of emotional baggage, and <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a>&#8216;ll fly from one mood to the next,&#8221; said one <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/respondent/">respondent</a>. &#8220;Regular <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/women/">women</a> are moody enough for me.&#8221; Another popular beef among 40 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> of our <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> was the idea that they were merely filling a void. &#8220;<a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">She</a>&#8217;s got a <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/boyfriend/">boyfriend</a> slot and <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> wants to drop me in it,&#8221; said one man. Said another, &#8220;You <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/end/">end</a> up cleaning up after her ex-<a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/boyfriend/">boyfriend</a>, fixing everything he broke on the way out.&#8221; According to one <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guy/">guy</a>, &#8220;You can <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/end/">end</a> up talking to her for hours on <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/end/">end</a> about her old <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/relationship/">relationship</a>—it&#8217;s too ego-shaking to hear about how <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/great/">great</a> some other <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guy/">guy</a> is.&#8221; Others feared that the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> in question would be too distant, or too clingy, and a small fraction (5 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a>) were afraid of being used. &#8220;I&#8217;m not saying that all <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/women/">women</a> are manipulative,&#8221; said one of the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> we polled, &#8220;but say, for example, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a>&#8217;s only <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>dating</strong></a> me to make her old <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/boyfriend/">boyfriend</a> jealous. I refuse to be some <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a>&#8217;s pawn.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>9. So do <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> avoid <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>dating</strong></a> <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/women/">women</a> on the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/rebound/">rebound</a>? Or do they ever actually seek them out?</strong></p>
<p>Although no man openly admitted to seeking out vulnerable, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/rebound/">rebounding</a> <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/women/">women</a>, about 50 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> confessed that they might take advantage of one if a fortuitous situation presented itself. &#8220;If some <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/comes/">comes</a> up to me in a bar and announces <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a>&#8217;s just broken up with some <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guy/">guy</a> and <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> wants to sleep around for a while, you&#8217;d have to be a jerk to turn her down,&#8221; said one. The other half, though, claimed you&#8217;d have to be a jerk to take the plunge. &#8220;It&#8217;s a fool&#8217;s game,&#8221; said one of our abstainers. &#8220;<a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">She</a>&#8217;s not in a stable point of her life; if you cavalierly sleep with a heartbroken <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a>, you&#8217;re just looking for trouble.&#8221; One lone optimist said, &#8220;At least if <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> just broke up with someone, you know that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a>&#8217;s had a <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/boyfriend/">boyfriend</a> before, that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a>&#8217;s capable of sustaining an intimate <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/relationship/">relationship</a> with someone.&#8221; No one else echoed his sentiment, however. Our advice: You don&#8217;t have to announce on your <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/first-date/"><strong>first date</strong></a> that you&#8217;ve just (been) jounced. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">Men</a> like mystery—this is one thing you can keep to yourself.</p>
<p><strong>10. </strong><strong>Does he want or <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">expect sex</a> on the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/first-date/"><strong>first date</strong></a>? How </strong><strong>many <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>dates</strong></a> will he wait? Is <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a> different with a </strong><strong><a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> who&#8217;s just out of a long <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/relationship/">relationship</a>? Will he think differently about me if I sleep with him on the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/first-date/"><strong>first date</strong></a>?</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Do I want <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a>?&#8221; asked one <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/respondent/">respondent</a>. &#8220;Of course I want it, but I don&#8217;t expect to get it.&#8221; That sentiment was echoed by just about every <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guy/">guy</a> we polled. And whereas 20 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> of the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> said they&#8217;d wait as long as they had to for <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a> (some qualified that by saying they would wait indefinitely only if they were <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">getting sex</a> elsewhere during that time), most of them said they&#8217;d throw in the towel after three to five <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>dates</strong></a>.</p>
<p>As for whether or not <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a> is weird with a heartbroken <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a>, that, of course, depends on the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a>. Those of you who enjoy <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">weird sex</a> will, no doubt, continue the practice. From a <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guy/">guy</a>&#8217;s point of view, when it <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/comes/">comes</a> to the recently jilted, it isn&#8217;t the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a>, it&#8217;s the stuff that happens around it that can get weird. &#8220;I started <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>dating</strong></a> a <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> four days out of a three-year <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/relationship/">relationship</a> and the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a> was amazing,&#8221; said one. &#8220;Physically, we never had any problems—but emotionally, it was a minefield. In the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/first/">first</a> month, we talked about major commitment, moving in together, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a>—it was intense. Six weeks later <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> went back to her old <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/boyfriend/">boyfriend</a>. No warning, no nothing — boom, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> was gone.&#8221; Another <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guy/">guy</a> told us that his <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/rebound/">rebound</a> <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> was &#8220;incredibly shy. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">She</a> must have been afraid of me. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">She</a> wouldn&#8217;t let me kiss her for two weeks. And then it took another two weeks just to get her bra off. It was over fifteen <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>dates</strong></a> before I actually saw her naked.&#8221; Give this <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guy/">guy</a> points for being such a brave little trooper.</p>
<p>Finally, on the subject of having <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a> on the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/first-date/"><strong>first date</strong></a>, there was no clear consensus. Thirty-five <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> of our <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/respondent/">respondents</a> said that they would think differently about a <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> who did—and not in a favorable way. &#8220;A <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> who jumped into the sack with me on Thursday might be doing it on Friday and Saturday with two other <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a>, for all I know,&#8221; said one man. &#8220;That makes me wonder what kind of person <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> is.&#8221; Fifty-five <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> claimed it wouldn&#8217;t change their opinion of the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> at all— but added that having <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a> early on would set a more casual tone to the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/relationship/">relationship</a>. And 5 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> said it depended on the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a>—<a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/great/">great</a> <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a> would pique their interest, bad <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a> would turn them away. In other words, when it <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/comes/">comes</a> to <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a> and <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>dating</strong></a>—and life, for that matter—your best tactic is just to go ahead and do what you want. Isn&#8217;t that what you were going to do anyway?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since dating takes two —at the very least—wouldn&#8217;t the ordeal be a lot less stressful if you were privy to the other party&#8217;s hopes and fears? Natch. So, once again, all for you, we did one of our survey things and asked roughly fifty guys your top ten questions about dating—with emphasis on the rebound [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>dating</strong></a> takes two —at the very least—wouldn&#8217;t the ordeal be a lot less stressful if you were privy to the other party&#8217;s hopes and fears? Natch. So, once again, all for you, we did one of our survey things and asked roughly fifty <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> your top ten questions about <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>dating</strong></a>—with emphasis on the rebound variety. Here&#8217;s what they had to say.<span id="more-341"></span></p>
<h3><strong>1. I met a guy at <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/party/">a party</a> and the two of us hit it off. How long will it take him to ask me out? Will he make the call himself or ask someone to arrange it for him?</strong></h3>
<p>Apparently, most men have the nerve—they just need a little time to get it up. Fifty-one <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> of our respondents said they would call within the next two to four days. The next biggest group-25 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a>—claimed they would pop the question by the end of the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/evening/">evening</a>; one (over)eager suitor said he &#8220;could barely wait until the end of the conversation.&#8221; And the remaining 24 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> said they would hold off for an entire week, the objective of one of them being &#8220;to make the girl squirm.&#8221; How sweet.</p>
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<p>As for arranging the rendezvous, only two of the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> surveyed said they would allow an <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/party/">outside party</a> to broker the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>date</strong></a>. The rest were all but horrified at the notion of being set up. Said one shocked respondent, &#8220;If you have to ask someone to do it for you, you don&#8217;t deserve to go out with her in the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/first/">first</a> place.&#8221; He&#8217;s got a point there.</p>
<h3><strong>2. </strong><strong>What does he consider to be a good <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/first/">first</a> <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>date</strong></a>? Does </strong><strong>he feel pressured to make the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/plans/">plans</a>?</strong></h3>
<p>Sharpen your forks, girls. Eighty-five <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> of these <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> want to take you to dinner—so even if the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/evening/">evening</a> is a bust, you&#8217;ll get a meal out of it. Half of that 85 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> said they&#8217;d make the invitation for drinks and, as one of them said, &#8220;If it went well, I&#8217;d casually suggest that we get something to eat.&#8221; Talk about fear of commitment. A few romantic (read: cheap) sorts would prefer to cook the dinner themselves. Twenty <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> said they&#8217;d throw in a movie (although many respondents thought that movies were a better choice for the second <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>date</strong></a>), and the rest said they&#8217;d follow up with drinks, a ball game, a round of pool, dancing, you name it.</p>
<p>On the pressure front, 55 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> of our men said they&#8217;d feel no pressure to make the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/plans/">plans</a> and that, in fact, they&#8217;d actually enjoy arranging the outing. Ten <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> said they thought it would be their responsibility to make the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/plans/">plans</a> for the night but wouldn&#8217;t feel unduly stressed out about it. Meanwhile, back at the neurosis ranch, 35 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> said they&#8217;d agonize over and feel &#8220;burdened by the obligation&#8221; of trying to make your <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/evening/">evening</a> together a pleasure cruise.</p>
<h3><strong>3. Will he pick up the tab for the whole night? Should </strong><strong>I offer money?</strong></h3>
<p>Here&#8217;s where we separate the artistes from the M.B.A.s. Eighty <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> assured us that they&#8217;d be happy to shell out the bucks—at least for the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/first/">first</a> <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/date/">date</a>; the remaining 20 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> would choose to go Dutch. As for whether or not you should whip out your wallet, 70 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> of the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> said that &#8220;it would be a nice gesture&#8221; but &#8220;it wasn&#8217;t really necessary&#8221; —and they&#8217;d refuse it anyway. The other 30 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> clearly stated that they would be annoyed if the girl didn&#8217;t at least offer to pay her part—if not on the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/first/">first</a> <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/date/">date</a>, then unquestionably on the second. Some, in fact, would be downright pissed if, in this enlightened day and age, the woman didn&#8217;t front her share. As one indignant respondent fumed, &#8220;What, does she expect me to pay for the simple pleasure of her company?&#8221; In other words, if you want to make a good impression, don&#8217;t forget the money, honey.</p>
<h3><strong>4. </strong><strong>What makes him most anxious before the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/date/">date</a>?</strong></h3>
<p>We girls aren&#8217;t the only ones with jangled nerves before a big night out—in our survey, guy anxiety raged. A charming 40 <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/percent/">percent</a> of our men fretted about whether &#8220;she&#8217;ll like me as much as I like her.&#8221; Isn&#8217;t that special? Other worries included: the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/evening/">evening</a>&#8217;s <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/plans/">plans</a>, the possibility of boredom, the conversation, his looks, her looks, and expenses (&#8221;What if my Visa card gets denied?&#8221;). On the more bizarre end, some of our <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> said they&#8217;d be stressed out over catching a sexually transmitted disease, getting into a car accident, or running into an ex-girlfriend.</p>
<p>to be continued</p>
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		<title>When It Breaks</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just as Indian heartbreak can arrive with little or no warning, so, too, can it leave. &#8220;I was just getting used to being in another blue funk, when it went away,&#8221; says a thirty-two-yearold personnel director. &#8220;One morning, I woke up and I thought, &#8216;Hey, I don&#8217;t feel so bad.&#8217; I can&#8217;t really think of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as Indian heartbreak can arrive with little or no warning, so, too, can it leave. &#8220;I was just getting <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/used/">used</a> to being in another blue funk, when it went away,&#8221; says a thirty-two-yearold personnel director. &#8220;One morning, I woke up and I thought, &#8216;Hey, I don&#8217;t feel so bad.&#8217; I can&#8217;t really think of any specific event that led up to this. I guess it just ran its course. I was sick and tired of feeling sick and tired—I was ready to meet new people again.&#8221; Another woman remembers how &#8220;I snapped out of it in the middle of working out. <span id="more-338"></span>I was in full swing, doing a step-aerobics class, when it suddenly popped into my head: &#8216;I&#8217;m fine! I&#8217;m really doing okay. I have things to do<sub>;</sub> I can enjoy myself—I don&#8217;t want to stay mired in the past, I like going on with my life.&#8217; It was weird; it was kind of like an epiphany or something. I don&#8217;t know why it happened then. But the feeling of relief when I <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/finally/">finally</a> realized all this was unbelievable. I felt a hundred pounds lighter. I felt like going out and celebrating—so I did.&#8221;</p>
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<p>And then there are the women who can pinpoint exactly how their second wave of depression passed. &#8220;For a long <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a>, when I got in bed, I <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/used/">used</a> to imagine that I could turn <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/back/">back</a> <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a> and go <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/back/">back</a> to the way it <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/used/">used</a> to be, when my ex and I were living together,&#8221; remembers a twenty-seven-year-old newspaper reporter. &#8220;You know that movie, <em>Somewhere in <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">Time</a>, </em>where Christopher Reeve goes <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/back/">back</a> to get Jane Seymour? That&#8217;s what I <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/used/">used</a> to think about. One night, I had a dream that I actually did it. There was my old boyfriend in our old apartment, telling me he loved me, asking me to take him <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/back/">back</a>. And instead of feeling ecstatic, I was horrified. I realized, &#8216;I don&#8217;<a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">t love</a> him anymore. I thought I wanted this, but I don&#8217;t. I&#8217;ve made a terrible mistake.&#8217; I prayed that I could change things <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/back/">back</a> again. When I woke up, I was so happy. Not long after that, I started <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>dating</strong></a> again and met the person I&#8217;m with today.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another woman recalls how she reached her letting-go point when &#8220;I saw an announcement in the paper that my ex had gotten married. It was as if a door <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/finally/">finally</a> swung shut in my brain. I thought, &#8216;That&#8217;s it, there&#8217;s no going <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/back/">back</a> now, even if you want to. Pining over him would be a waste of <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a>—and haven&#8217;t I wasted <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/enough/">enough</a> <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a> already?&#8217; It was such a practical end to such an emotional <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a>—but I guess I was <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/finally/">finally</a> ready to let go. The <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/wedding/">wedding announcement</a> just gave me the final nudge in the right direction.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/finally/">Finally</a>, there&#8217;s the large contingent who say that they could get past Indian heartbreak only when they met another man. Maybe, maybe not. &#8220;You might think you&#8217;ve <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/finally/">finally</a> recovered because you met a great guy and are starting up a new relationship,&#8221; says Dr. Eaker-Weil, &#8220;but you have to remember that the reason you met him was because you were ready to. A man can&#8217;t magically chase the blues away. You have to do that first. When you do, then you&#8217;re equipped to share yourself with someone with whom you can build something good and lasting.&#8221;</p>
<p>We agree completely. You can&#8217;t hail a cab unless you&#8217;re strong <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/enough/">enough</a> to lift your arm first (or you can do that thing where you stick two fingers in your mouth and make one of those really loud, piercing whistles). And if you&#8217;ve made it this far, odds are you&#8217;ll be strong <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/enough/">enough</a> to hail a whole fleet of cabs, if you&#8217;re so inclined. Maybe even strong <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/enough/">enough</a> to hear the harebrained thing we&#8217;re going to say next without falling down, beating your fists on the floor, and screaming, <em>&#8220;Lies, all </em><em>lies!&#8221;</em></p>
<p>So here goes. After all these kvetching about the guys in our lives, after all the ruckus about those crazy, mixed- up men, after the reams and reams of we&#8217;re so super/they&#8217;re so stupid, we&#8217;ve got to say this one thing: Men, by and large, are a pretty terrific invention. Come on. Admit it. Even the women we spoke to who were in the throes of heartbreak despair could drag up at least one or two good things about the male of the species. And we&#8217;re not only referring to men as boyfriends or <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>dates</strong></a> or <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex toys</a> (although they, too, have a definite draw)—we&#8217;re talking in broader terms. We&#8217;re talking about the guy on the airplane who helps you stuff your suitcase in the overhead luggage compartment, or the man in the deli who always saves you the last onion bagel, or your doorman who gives you a big welcome-home smile after you come <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/back/">back</a> from vacation. So we thought it was only fair to offer up at least .. .</p>
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		<title>The Stalk Lands</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, we don&#8217;t mean the crazed, murderous, headline-making kind of stalking that&#8217;s all the rage these days. We mean a less violent type of safari in which your ex calls and hangs up as soon as you answer, or lurks around your apartment building to see if you&#8217;re coming home alone, or tries repeatedly to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, we don&#8217;t mean the crazed, murderous, headline-making kind of stalking that&#8217;s all the rage these days. We mean a less violent type of safari in which your <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/ex/">ex</a> calls and hangs up as soon as you answer, or lurks around your apartment building to see if you&#8217;re coming home alone, or tries repeatedly to pick up the messages on your answering machine, or leaves you <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/flower/">flowers</a> or writes plaintive missives declaring his love. Ah, but that would be impossible, you say. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">Men</a> never do such silly things, do they?<span id="more-335"></span></p>
<p><em>Mais oui.</em></p>
<p>Once considered the pink, frilly domain of girly-girls, crank calls to an <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/ex/">ex</a>-loved one seem to be enjoying increasing popularity among the male of the species. Surprised? We sure were. But facts is facts: Over one-third of the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> we surveyed confessed to letting their fingers do the stalking. Their reasons were many: &#8220;I accidentally dialed her number&#8221; (we&#8217;re so sure), &#8220;I wanted to make sure <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> was okay, that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> wasn&#8217;t too destroyed&#8221; (ego, much?), and &#8220;I was bored&#8221; (ever hear of MTV?) numbered among them. Some less lame explanations included &#8220;I wanted to talk to her, but then I lost my nerve,&#8221; &#8220;I wanted to see if <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> was out having a good time without me,&#8221; and &#8220;I wanted to hear her voice.&#8221; Okay, we&#8217;ll allow those—no stone-throwers, we.</p>
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<p>Some of our <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> took that extra step and coerced friends or relatives into doing the dirty deed for them. &#8220;I used to ask my sister to call my <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/ex/">ex</a> at home on weekend nights, ask for a fake name, and then apologize and say <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> had dialed the wrong number,&#8221; said one thirty-year-old. &#8220;I would listen on another extension. After a couple of these, I got nervous that my sister&#8217;s voice would be recognized, so I made her wrap a dish towel around the receiver to distort the sound. It was a miserable, complicated little business.&#8221;</p>
<p>Others were not quite satisfied with the next best thing to being there. &#8220;I occasionally hung out at my old girlfriend&#8217;s house late at night,&#8221; said a thirty-one-year-old journalist. &#8220;I wanted to see if <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> was coming home with anyone. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">She</a> had cheated on me with a friend of mine and I wanted to see if <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> was with him.&#8221; One enterprising fellow even followed his <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/ex/">ex</a> on a date. &#8220;They were going to a concert<sub>;</sub> I put on a trench coat and sunglasses and walked behind them about half a block, ducking behind parked cars and trees. I don&#8217;t know what I was looking for. I guess I was kind of crazed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Somewhat less surreptitious were the guys who chose to do their haunting via FTD. &#8220;I left her a single red rose every day for a month,&#8221; said an ad salesman, thirty. &#8220;I thought it would charm her into loving me again, but now I see that it just made me look like a spineless ass.&#8221; A financial consultant admitted to writing <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">shameless love</a> letters, making <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">gooey love</a>-song tapes and leaving them with his <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/ex/">ex</a>&#8217;s doorman every week. A marketing exec who traveled frequently sent postcards from every city he went to. And a musician composed Desperately Seeking Susan-esque personals and had them printed in his local paper&#8217;s classified section.</p>
<p>Fortunately, these haunting expeditions rarely lasted too long. Even the most lovelorn guy eventually sees the absurdity in moonlighting as Inspector Clouseau or serenading a twelfth-story window. &#8220;I had to make one last-ditch effort to win her back,&#8221; said one of our surveyed <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a>. &#8220;It was more something I had to do for myself than for her. I didn&#8217;t want to feel like I hadn&#8217;t given it my best shot. Once I had, I could move on.&#8221;</p>
<p>And so shall we move on, to the last leg of our little journey . . .</p>
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		<title>Whine Country</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, so now they&#8217;re ready to talk. And talk and talk. It took shilly-shallying around before our guys were primed enough to stop and look carefully at what had happened to them. If you&#8217;ve ever had a close, platonic male friend, you know that this stage of heartbreak recovery can be the most annoying—for you, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so <em>now </em>they&#8217;re ready to talk. And talk and talk. It took shilly-shallying <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/around/">around</a> before our <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> were primed enough to stop and look carefully at what had happened to them. If you&#8217;ve ever had a close, platonic male friend, you know that this stage of heartbreak recovery can be the most annoying—for you, that is. <span id="more-333"></span>You could deal with <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/mr/">Mr</a>. Everything&#8217;s Fine, and you had ample sympathy for <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/mr/">Mr</a>. Morose, although you secretly feared that he might have to change his name to <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/mr/">Mr</a>. Jack Daniels. You may have even helped <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/mr/">Mr</a>. Furtive make a crank phone call or two. But now you&#8217;re faced with <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/mr/">Mr</a>. All My Feelings Are Public Domain, and suddenly your female friends (even the really bitchy one who can&#8217;t stop telling you about how cute your ex has become) are looking awful good.</p>
<p>Well, stick <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/around/">around</a>. It&#8217;s a long, hard road to emotional awareness, especially for a guy. &#8220;It takes a long <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a> for a man to allow himself to admit that he&#8217;s depressed,&#8221; says Dr. Eaker-Weil. &#8220;He doesn&#8217;t want to accept the fact that he might have been dependent on someone else, particularly a woman. In a way, he&#8217;s still fighting against the old dependency-on-mother thing. High emotion is more familiar to women; <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> repress anger and loneliness and sadness. It takes a while for them to truly grieve.&#8221;</p>
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<p>For most of our <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a>, arriving at this point was more of a quiet realization than a blinding-flash-of-light, huge-puff-ofsmoke kind of thing. &#8220;Gradually, I just found that I didn&#8217;t need to avoid my feelings anymore,&#8221; said a twenty-seven-year-old grad student. &#8220;I eased up on the drinking, I stopped killing <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/myself/">myself</a> with work. The pace somehow slowed itself down. I thought about how it ended and tried to figure out my position. It was a quiet <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a> for me—I didn&#8217;t want to be with friends; I spent most nights alone, trying to rediscover my equilibrium.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not all <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> evolve with quite this much ease, though. &#8220;After a couple of months,&#8221; said a twenty-eight-year-old talent agent, &#8220;I got sick of going out all the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a>—going <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/around/">around</a> with a bunch of <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> to stupid bars, getting drunk, trying to talk to girls. It was pathetic. I hated it. It just made me more depressed. I started spending more and more <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a> alone, taking walks by <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/myself/">myself</a>, wandering <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/around/">around</a> like a tired traveler. Actually <em>thinking. </em>I was still obsessed with my ex-girlfriend, but over <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a>—with the help of therapy—I was able to see that I wasn&#8217;t a failure, that we had loved each other and now it was <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a> to let it go. I didn&#8217;<a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">t love</a> the process, but I got something out of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Often <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> reach this point because there&#8217;s nowhere else to go. &#8220;I was exhausted, physically and mentally,&#8221; said a thirtytwo-year-old graphic artist. &#8220;I couldn&#8217;t punish <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/myself/">myself</a> anymore—I just couldn&#8217;t take it. Fifty nights of getting blind drunk was about forty-eight nights too many. I was running <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/myself/">myself</a> into the ground and I needed a breather. It wasn&#8217;t until I stopped my frenetic scramble that I found a way to face <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/myself/">myself</a> and her, and cope with the whole mess.&#8221;</p>
<p>About one-third of the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> we surveyed said that this was the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a> that they first seriously considered therapy. And some even went into it. &#8220;At first I was reluctant,&#8221; said one thirty-six-year-old television writer, &#8220;but I was at the end of my rope. It really turned my head <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/around/">around</a>. Being in therapy forced me to examine not just what was wrong with the relationship, but what was wrong in my life. It shook me out of denial. I saw that I was acting out familial relationships with my ex-girlfriend, that I was ignoring my inner child, that I had been misunderstood and the breakup was a function of deep childhood traumas that I had repressed when I. . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, okay, okay. Give it a rest, Sigmund. Our point is that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a>, in their own agonizing way, certainly feel the aftershocks of love lost, just as achingly as women do. And although far <em>be it </em>from us to take pleasure in their pain, doesn&#8217;t it make you feel a little better to know that you&#8217;re not the only one crying in your soup? Sure it does. But enough about them. Back to the far more fascinating world of Us. Now that we&#8217;re assured of the fact that they&#8217;re just as wrecked as we are, it&#8217;s <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a> to check out some postbreakup mechanics, starting with A Guide to the Whole Ex-Mess.</p>
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		<title>Marriage Has It</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too long has marriage, in this tasteless age, With ill-bred raillery supply&#8217;d the stage; No little scribbler is of wit so bare,
But has his fling at the poor wedded pair.
As there is nothing in the world as common as marriage, and as it is something over which men commonly make fools of themselves, it is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too long has <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a>, in this tasteless age, With ill-bred raillery supply&#8217;d the stage; No little scribbler is of wit so bare,</p>
<p>But has his fling at the poor wedded pair.</p>
<p>As there is nothing in the world as common as <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a>, and as it is something over which men commonly make fools of themselves, it is hardly surprising that it should form the subject matter of most comedies.<span id="more-331"></span></p>
<p><a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">Marriage</a> &#8230; notwithstanding all the loose talk of the Town, the Satires of antient, or modern Pretenders to Wit, will never lose its just Esteem from the Wise and Good.</p>
<p>Venus, a beautiful good-natured lady, was the goddess of <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">love</a>; Juno, a terrible shrew, the goddess of <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a>; and they were always mortal enemies.</p>
<p>&#8216;Tis melancholy, and a fearful sign Of human frailty, folly, also crime,</p>
<p>That <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">love</a> and <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage rarely</a> can combine, Although they both are born in the same clime.</p>
<p>How oft, when press&#8217;d to <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a>, have I said, Curse on all laws but those which <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">Love</a> has made! <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">Love</a>, free as air, at sight of human ties,</p>
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<p>Spreads his light wings, and in a moment flies.</p>
<p>Question: &#8216;Is it possible for <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">true love</a> to exist in <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a>?&#8217;</p>
<p>Judgment <em>of the Countess of Champagne: </em>&#8216;Our ruling is hereby that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">love</a> cannot extend its dominion over a married couple. For <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/lovers/">lovers</a> indeed grant each other everything in all freedom, without the constraint of any obligation, whereas <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/husband-and-wife/"><big>husband and wife</big></a> are bound by duty not to refuse each other anything.</p>
<p>The Lion is the King of Beasts, but he is scarcely suitable for a domestic pet. In the same way, I <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">suspect love</a> is rather too violent a passion to make a good domestic sentiment.</p>
<p>There can be only one end to <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a> <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">without love</a>, and that is <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">love</a> <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">without marriage</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think matrimony consistent with the liberty of the subject.</p>
<p>Sir, it is so far from being natural for a <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/man/">man</a> and <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> to live in a state of <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a>, that we find all the motives which they have for remaining in that connection, and the restraints which civilized society imposes to prevent separation, are hardly sufficient to keep them together.</p>
<p>There was already at that time debate about the rights of women, and about the relations between <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/couple/">married couples</a>, their rights and freedom &#8230; But Natasha took no interest in such issues, and did not even understand them. Then, as now, those questions existed only for people who see nothing in <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage beyond</a> the pleasure which <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/husband-and-wife/"><big>husband and wife</big></a> may derive from one another, and fail to see its whole significance which lies in the family.</p>
<p><a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/man/">Man</a> and wife, a king and queen with one or two subjects, and a few square yards of territory of their <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/own/">own</a>: this, really, is <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a>. It is true freedom because it is a true fulfilment, for <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/man/">man</a>, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a>, and children.</p>
<p>`One does have the feeling that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a> is a pis <em>alter,&#8217; </em>he admitted.</p>
<p>`Then don&#8217;t do it,&#8217; said Birkin, &#8216;I tell you,&#8217; he went on, `the same as I&#8217;ve said before, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a> in the old sense seems to me repulsive. <em>Egoïsme a deux </em>is nothing to it. It&#8217;s a sort of tacit hunting in <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/couple/">couples</a>: the world all in <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/couple/">couples</a>, each couple in its <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/own/">own</a> little house, watching its <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/own/">own</a> little interests, and stewing in its <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/own/">own</a> little privacy — it&#8217;s the most repulsive thing on earth.&#8217;</p>
<p>We are just in the throes of a great revolt <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">against marriage</a>, a passionate revolt against its ties and restrictions. In fact, at least three-quarters of the unhappiness of modem life could be laid at the door of <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a> &#8230; And everybody, pretty well, takes it for granted that as soon as we can find a possible way out of it, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a> will be abolished.</p>
<p>And when will there be an end of marrying? I suppose, when there is an end of living!</p>
<p>I think a <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/man/">man</a> and a <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> should choose each other for life, for the simple reason that a long life with all its accidents is barely enough for a <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/man/">man</a> and a <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> to understand each other; and in this case to understand is to <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">love</a>.</p>
<p>Wives are young men&#8217;s mistresses, companions for middle age, and old men&#8217;s nurses.</p>
<p>What <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a> may be in the case of two persons of cultivated faculties, identical in opinions and purposes, between whom there exists that best kind of equality, similarity of powers and capacities with reciprocal superiority in them, so that each can enjoy the luxury of looking up to the other &#8230; I will not attempt to describe.</p>
<p>In most good <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriages</a>, the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/woman/">woman</a> is her husband&#8217;s closest friend and adviser.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll suffer no daughter of mine to play the fool with her heart, indeed! She shall marry for the purpose for which matrimony was ordained amongst people of birth — that is, for the aggrandisement of her family, the extending of their political influence — for becoming, in short, the depository of their mutual interest. These are the only purposes for which persons of rank ever think of <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a>.</p>
<p>She herself had sought dignity and she thinks that everyone should follow her example. The boys will marry eventually but their <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/bride/">brides</a> must be carefully chosen; they will have to be of a suitable pattern to conform with the family destiny.</p>
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		<title>Wits of Marriage and Love</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dodo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The marriage state, with or without the affection suitable to it, is the completest image of Heaven and capable of receiving in this life.
For what is wedlock forced but a hell, An age of discord and continual strife? Whereas the contrary bringeth bliss, And is a pattern of celestial peace.

Hell we are Well-married, a man [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage state</a>, with or without the affection suitable to it, is the completest image of Heaven and capable of receiving in this life.</p>
<p>For what is wedlock forced but a hell, An age of discord and continual strife? Whereas the contrary bringeth bliss, And is a pattern of celestial peace.<span id="more-328"></span></p>
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<p>Hell we are Well-married, a man is winged: ill-matched, he is shackled.</p>
<p><a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">Marriage</a> is neither heaven nor hell, it is simply purgatory.</p>
<p>Manages (as they say) are made in heauen, though consumated in yearth.</p>
<p>What is there in the vale of life</p>
<p>Half so delightful as a wife,</p>
<p>When friendship, love, and peace combine</p>
<p>To stamp the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage bond</a> divine?</p>
<p>Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the Lord.</p>
<p><a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">Marriage</a> is not a good, but it is a good in comparison with fornication.</p>
<p>On what pretence can man have <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">interdicted marriage</a>, which is a law of nature? It is as though we were forbidden to eat, to drink, to sleep.<em> </em></p>
<p><a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">Marriage itself</a> among all races is for the one purpose of procreating children &#8230;; <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a> was instituted for this purpose, so that children might be born properly and decently.</p>
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		<title>Commitment Lust (or, Love Me Do)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Loving unions are all about giving and taking, making and meeting requests. There are so many small things that each person can ask of and do for the other to make the love grow. For example, Val&#8217;s request to be told, at least once a week, that she is breathtakingly beautiful has done wonders for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loving unions are all about giving and taking, making and meeting requests. There are so many small <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/things/">things</a> that each person can ask of and do for the other to make the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">love</a> grow. For example, Val&#8217;s request to be told, at least once a week, that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> is breathtakingly beautiful has done wonders for her partnership. Ellen&#8217;s request that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> be told, at least twice a week, that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> is more beautiful than Val has done likewise. And since your partner can&#8217;t be expected to read your mind, the premise here is: Ask and ye shall receive.<span id="more-325"></span></p>
<p>But hound, and ye shall end up with . . . jack. If you autocratically require your sweetie to do anything, odds are he&#8217;ll demur. Again, the principle of reverse desire (what you want, you can&#8217;t have) applies, but this time, with a twist: What you demand him to do, he won&#8217;t. With a vengeance. With piddling day-to-day conflicts, this dilemma can be resolved by . . . giving up. As <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/someone/">someone</a> once said (we think it was Krishnamurti, but maybe it was Bonnie Raitt): Release the desire and it will be yours. If you suck it up (nudge, nudge), bite the bullet (wink, wink), and give him a break, he&#8217;ll probably give you one, too.</p>
<p>But suppose your piddling demands become, well, un-piddling. Suppose they escalate way up, from one dinner out a week to, say, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a>. (At this point, we feel obliged to remind you that when it comes to hijackers and terrorists, the greater and more urgent their demands become, the more evident it is to the authorities that they&#8217;re completely crackers. If you catch our drift.) You&#8217;ve got a bee in your bonnet, and it&#8217;s buzzing commitment. You&#8217;re obsessed with pinning him down; it&#8217;s the fulcrum on which your <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/entire-life/"><strong>entire life</strong></a> balances. Danger, danger: Any situation that requires the use of the phrase &#8220;your <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/entire-life/"><strong>entire life</strong></a>&#8221; can often mean big trouble.</p>
<p>Such a fate befell Vicki, and her boyfriend Tim. They&#8217;d been going out for three and a half years when they decided to move in together.</p>
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<p>&#8220;Tim&#8217;s lease was up and it seemed like a good idea. For some reason, though, I <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/didn/">didn</a>&#8216;t want to live together until we were engaged. I don&#8217;t know <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/why/">why</a> I felt that way<sub>;</sub> now it seems unnecessary. But I was insecure in the relationship —I was always jealous, asking him a million questions, wanting to know what he did every second of the day. I was convinced that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a> would make me feel more secure. It seemed to me that we had been going out for so long, the next logical <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/thing/">thing</a> for us to do was get engaged and then live together. In that order. And I let him know it, again and again.</p>
<p>&#8220;He finally proposed when we were on a vacation in Hawaii. Now I realize that being engaged <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/didn/">didn</a>&#8216;t mean the same <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/thing/">thing</a> to him that it did to me. For me, it was the first step toward the ultimate goal. For him, it was just a ticket to living with me in my apartment. He moved in and everything was fine.</p>
<p>&#8220;But then I wanted more. I needed to plan the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/wedding/">wedding</a>. My brain was practically chanting, &#8216;Set a date, set a date.&#8217; It <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/didn/">didn</a>&#8216;t help that my mother was calling every day, nagging me to reserve <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/wedding/">a wedding</a> location. Tim had wanted to keep the whole <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/thing/">thing</a> really low-key; he <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/didn/">didn</a>&#8216;t want to tell people right away. He kept assuring me that we would one day get married, but he <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/didn/">didn</a>&#8216;t want to make a big deal of the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/engagement/">engagement</a>. I did. &#8216;One day&#8217; <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/wasn/">wasn</a>&#8216;t specific enough for me. I persisted, and finally he relented. We reserved a night at our country club. And I was happy.</p>
<p>&#8220;He <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/wasn/">wasn</a>&#8216;t, though. He wouldn&#8217;t help me register or look at furniture. He hated everything I picked. He couldn&#8217;t seem to get around to picking ushers. I had always had this picture in my head of what an <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/engagement/">engagement</a> was supposed to be—and he <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/wasn/">wasn</a>&#8216;t delivering. I kept at him to participate in my plans. He grew more and more disagreeable. I asked him a thousand times a day what was wrong; he kept insisting that everything was fine.</p>
<p>&#8220;Obviously, it <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/wasn/">wasn</a>&#8216;t. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/things/">Things</a> started falling apart. We began to make social plans with other people—it was too depressing to be alone together. One weekend, three months before the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/wedding/">wedding</a>, I went to visit friends in the Hamptons. When I got back, he told me how much he had missed me. Instead of telling him I&#8217;d missed him too, I demanded to know what he had done all weekend, who he&#8217;d seen, who he&#8217;d talked to. The same old stuff. He started crying and told me that he just couldn&#8217;t go on this way. He said he needed to be able to make his own decisions, live his own <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/life/">life</a>. He moved out.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can lead a boy to the altar, but you can&#8217;t make him say, &#8220;I do.&#8221; For Vicki, that was a tough lesson to learn. And while <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> thirsted for <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">marriage</a>, Mary, thirty-three, would have settled for monogamy. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">She</a> met Rob when <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> was working as a producer for a local New York television talk show. He was an expert guest. He was cute, witty, and had a big . . . intellect. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">She</a> thought they were perfect for each other. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">She</a> couldn&#8217;t have been more wrong.</p>
<p>&#8220;I <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/didn/">didn</a>&#8216;t know he was seeing <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/someone/">someone</a> else until I had already slept with him. He told me that he and Peggy had been together three years—and my heart fell to my knees— but then he said it was almost over. Of course I believed him. He asked if I wanted him to break it off immediately with her for me, and I said no. My first mistake.</p>
<p>&#8220;A month later, he still hadn&#8217;t ended it. He also hadn&#8217;t invited me out to meet his friends or his family, although he kept promising he would. We had a bedroom relationship—not that it was all <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a>, but that&#8217;s just where we spent all our time. I stayed with it because I was still impressed by his credentials, his grasp (literally and figuratively) of the issues, his experience.</p>
<p>&#8220;Two months went by, and I assumed that he had finally ended it with Peggy. I asked him how it went, how did <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> take it. He said he hadn&#8217;t broken it off yet. I was shocked. I started feeling like the other woman. I <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/didn/">didn</a>&#8216;t like the feeling of being taken advantage of. Our relationship became half passion, half disillusionment. It was so strange, not a normal boyfriend-girlfriend <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/thing/">thing</a>, more like some amorphic beast. Still, I was crazy in <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">love</a> with him.</p>
<p>&#8220;I focused all my anger on this phantom Peggy. I fixated on her even though I had never met her. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">She</a> was always there with us, in bed, in my mind. All our problems were about her and his inability to break up with her. I threw tantrums. I cried. I complained. All about her. This made it easier to refuse to commit to me—who wants to pledge devotion to psycho-woman? I grilled him for information about her. I said <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/things/">things</a> like, &#8216;<a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/why/">Why</a> don&#8217;t you want me? I&#8217;m young and exciting. What&#8217;s <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> got that I don&#8217;t have?&#8221; He wouldn&#8217;t say anything, and that made me angrier. I pressured him constantly. Eventually, it felt like I was just pressuring him to hurt me.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">Love</a> is not a democracy. No matter how hard you campaign, you can&#8217;t make him <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">love</a> you, marry you, or commit to you if he doesn&#8217;t want to. &#8220;Basically,&#8221; says Dr. Sills, &#8220;if you want to move forward but your partner wants to stay in the same place, you&#8217;ve got an irreconcilable conflict of interest. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/someone/">Someone</a>&#8217;s got to give in—or it ends.&#8221; Your best bet, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> says, is to back off for as long as you can and see how the situation develops. But eventually, if he can&#8217;t meet your needs, you&#8217;ll have to find <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/someone/">someone</a> who can. In short:</p>
<p><strong>COMMITMENT LUST</strong></p>
<p><strong>How it works: </strong>You <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/marriage/">demand marriage</a>, monogamy, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">regular sex</a>, you name it, from a man who cannot, by nature, take orders from anyone and like it. He reacts by . . . not reacting. <strong>How it makes you feel: </strong>Like you&#8217;re beating your head against a brick wall. Your words and sentences start to sound <strong>the </strong>same. In fact, they are the same. You&#8217;ve become a single-track person in a multitrack world. You&#8217;re even boring yourself. <strong>Overriding emotion: </strong>Frustration. No one seems to understand how important this is! <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/why/">Why</a> doesn&#8217;t anyone see how important this is? This is important! <strong>How you should </strong><strong>react: </strong>Back off. Remember when the neighborhood kids tried to feed you <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/dirt/">dirt</a> and you said, &#8220;You can&#8217;t make me.&#8221; The same goes for him. <strong>How you do react: </strong>You insist on trying to feed him <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/dirt/">dirt</a>, ten, twenty times a day. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/why/">Why</a> won&#8217;t he eat <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/dirt/">dirt</a>? Will he ever eat <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/dirt/">dirt</a>? If so, when? <strong>The upside: </strong>You learn the difference between &#8220;Will you, please?&#8221; and &#8220;Do it—or else.&#8221; You opt for the former. This makes you a more pleasant person. The kind of person that people want to do <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/things/">things</a> for. The kind of person that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/someone/">someone</a> might want to be with . . . for his <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/entire-life/"><strong>entire life</strong></a>, even. It&#8217;s worth considering.</p>
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		<title>Man Distracts himself from the sad topic: The Great Escape from Breakup</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stop number one for most men: In this stage, a man will deal with his problems by simply . . . not dealing. He&#8217;ll do just about anything to distract himself from the sad topic at hand—e.g., if he thought that walking over hot coals might help him get his mind off things, he&#8217;d happily [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop number one for most <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a>: In this stage, a man will deal with his problems by simply . . . not dealing. He&#8217;ll do just about <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/anything/">anything</a> to distract himself from the sad topic at hand—e.g., if he thought that walking over hot coals might help him get his mind off things, he&#8217;d happily march right over them. &#8220;There&#8217;s nothing like a good bungee jump to put things in perspective,&#8221; said one thirty-four-year-old respondent. Whatever you say, Geronimo.<span id="more-322"></span></p>
<p>&#8220;<a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">Men</a> have trouble with empathy and compassion,&#8221; says <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/dr/">Dr</a>. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/eaker-weil/">Eaker-Weil</a>. &#8220;They would rather do than feel. Often, instead of being sad, they get angry. They sublimate their feelings into work and sports. They don&#8217;t talk, they just get busy. This is the best way they know to be brave and masculine, which is how they think they&#8217;re expected to act.&#8221;</p>
<p>So if <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/women/">women</a> have to be persuaded to stop obsessing, and need to be pushed to go do something to distract themselves, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> are quite the opposite. &#8220;When my fiancee and I called off our <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/wedding/">wedding</a>,&#8221; said one thirty-year-old attorney, &#8220;I turned into a compulsive. I had gained weight over the course of our five-year relationship, and I became obsessed with losing it. Every day—and I&#8217;m not kidding —I did six hundred stomach crunches and four hundred push-ups, half in the morning, half at night. Even if I came home drunk at three in the morning, even if a girl was there, I&#8217;d do them. I started riding my bike, maybe a hundred miles a week. I got a trainer. I lost thirty-five pounds. When I wasn&#8217;t working out, I filled my <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a> with working, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/"><strong>dating</strong></a>, partying, going out with clients. I took a summer share. I did everything to stay out of the apartment<sub>;</sub> it reminded me too much of her.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Exercise, in fact, seemed to be the most popular diversion for the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> we spoke to. &#8220;When <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> walked out the door,&#8221; said one twenty-nine-year-old banker, &#8220;the first thing I did was hit the Soloflex.&#8221; Several of our <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> said they joined health clubs soon after their breakups. &#8220;I never was much for working out,&#8221; said one, &#8220;but now I wanted an outlet for my aggressions, my hurt feelings. I wanted to create something to do and someplace to go. Signing up with a gym seemed to be the easiest refuge for me at the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Other <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> chose less extreme, and considerably less strenuous, measures. Many of our <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> chose to leave the country — on vacation, that is. &#8220;Right before my girlfriend and I broke up, I took a job in another city,&#8221; said one respondent, twenty-nine. &#8220;I had a couple of months in between jobs, so I took a trek to Nepal for a month. After that, I was completely preoccupied with packing, finding an apartment, moving. It wasn&#8217;t until I settled down in my new home that I had <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a> to think about how much I missed her.&#8221; Another one of our interviewees, twenty-seven, took a two-week trip to the Caribbean. &#8220;I wanted a change of setting, new faces to look at,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I needed to distract myself, but in the end, it turned out that I had a lot of <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a> to think about what had happened. I frantically traveled from island to island, but <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> kept haunting me. I realized that there was no running away—wherever I was, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> was.&#8221;</p>
<p>For those <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> who couldn&#8217;t afford the high cost of air travel, going out was a popular alternative. &#8220;I went out almost every night with a bunch of <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> I worked with,&#8221; said a paralegal, twenty-six. &#8220;We went from bar to bar, flirting with <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/women/">women</a>, getting drunk. For the first week, everyone bought me drinks. I guess that was their way of showing me that they were concerned. I concentrated on keeping moving—that way, I wouldn&#8217;t have <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a> to think about what had happened.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;<a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">Men</a> are much more interested in interaction than introspection when they&#8217;re together,&#8221; says <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/dr/">Dr</a>. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/eaker-weil/">Eaker-Weil</a>. &#8220;They rarely share and confide in each other—in a way, it&#8217;s out of respect for privacy and space. Instead of talking about things, they like to go out and pretend nothing is wrong. Their way of showing sympathy is to keep the guy who&#8217;s upset busy. Because of this, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> don&#8217;t validate each other&#8217;s feelings. When they do talk, they try to offer solutions as opposed to just plain empathy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally, many of our escape artists drowned their sorrows in pleasures of the flesh. Some of them turned to old girlfriends, what one guy sentimentally called &#8220;known entities.&#8221; According to <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/dr/">Dr</a>. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/eaker-weil/">Eaker-Weil</a>, &#8220;Often, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> are prone to return to old flames because they seek a familiar woman, someone who will validate their emotions, who will comfort them and not judge them. They&#8217;re looking for compassion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Other <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/guys/">guys</a> went the complete-stranger route, trying to heal their sprained self-esteem with the balm of fleeting intimacy. &#8220;The week after <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> left, I slept with about a dozen <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/women/">women</a>,&#8221; said a political consultant, twenty-seven. &#8220;I wanted to prove to myself that I was attractive to other <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/women/">women</a>, that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> wasn&#8217;t the only woman in the world.&#8221; <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/dr/">Dr</a>. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/eaker-weil/">Eaker-Weil</a> calls this &#8220;a power thing. A man may feel compelled to try to control new <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/women/">women</a>, to exploit them, in order to feel more in control of himself. He might be angry and in some way, he&#8217;s trying to make other <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/women/">women</a> pay for what he&#8217;s gone through.&#8221;</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t freak out—even if your ex is on a rampage, he&#8217;s not likely to find love or happiness or really <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/anything/">anything</a> except his own sorry petard between the sheets. None of the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> we talked to felt particularly moved by their bedroom rebounds<sub>;</sub>for them it was <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/sex/">sex</a> as sport rather than pleasure. &#8220;Yeah, I slept with a bunch of girls in the first few weeks of being single,&#8221; said a musician, twenty-six. &#8220;It didn&#8217;t help me feel better or make me feel worse, though. I think that for a long <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/time/">time</a>, I just didn&#8217;t feel <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/anything/">anything</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>I just didn&#8217;t feel <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/anything/">anything</a>. </em>It&#8217;s a familiar refrain when it comes to <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> and heartbreak.</p>
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		<title>How Men Suffer from Heartbreak</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nightmare #1: You&#8217;re sitting in your living room, burning votive candles, poring over photos of Him, and the phone rings. It&#8217;s your best friend, telling you that she saw the ex-love of your life at a party, drinking, laughing —laughing!— flirting, high-fiving all over the place, celebrating his newfound freedom . . . oh, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nightmare #1: You&#8217;re sitting in your living room, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/burning-votive-candles/"><big>burning votive candles</big></a>, poring over photos of Him, and the phone rings. It&#8217;s your best friend, telling you that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> saw the <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/love/">ex-love</a> of your <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/life/">life</a> at <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/category/party/">a party</a>, drinking, laughing <em>—laughing!— </em>flirting, high-fiving all over the place, celebrating his newfound freedom . . . oh, and one more thing, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> hates to say it (sure <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> does), but boy, does he ever look great.<span id="more-321"></span></p>
<p>Nightmare #2: You&#8217;re standing in your kitchen, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/burning-votive-candles/"><big>burning votive candles</big></a>, eating Chunky Monkey (His favorite), singing sad songs, and the phone rings. It&#8217;s your best friend, letting you know that <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> saw your ex at a restaurant, snuggled up in a banquette with some blonde, acting all cozy and goofy with love, and by the way, <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">she</a> just has to say (with best friends like her, who needs syphilis) that this new girlfriend of his really is a knockout.</p>
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<p>UberNightmare: You&#8217;ve actually managed to get out of the house long enough to run to the corner drugstore: You&#8217;ve had the flu for a week, your hair looks like the <em>Exxon Valdez </em>oil spill, and there&#8217;s a rather remarkable cold sore blossoming on your lip. You&#8217;re browsing through the votive candle aisle when you bump into your former flame, arm-in-arm with his new gymnast/model/Nobel Prize—winning girlfriend, at whom you can barely aim to spit since the light reflecting off of that <em>big fucking diamond on her finger </em>is practically blinding you.</p>
<p>Then you wake up.</p>
<p>Time out for a few seconds of deep breathing. Turn over, try to relax—it was only a hideous dream. At low points like these, when Satan possesses the imagination sector of your brain, it&#8217;s easy to convince yourself that you&#8217;re the only one who&#8217;s hurting. That your ex has somehow emerged from this whole thing better, stronger, more desirable, and is having the time of his <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/life/">life</a>. Well, the truth is—and we&#8217;ll couch this as delicately as we <em>can—you&#8217;re dead wrong. </em>Guess what? <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">Men</a> actually do have emotions, and they experience just as much pain and suffering as we do. Maybe even more. No, really, because they&#8217;ve got to factor in the added onus of appearing strong and silent when they&#8217;re really crying on the inside. &#8220;Society frowns on <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> suffering,&#8221; says Dr. Bonnie EakerWeil, author of <em>Adultery: The Forgivable </em>Sin. &#8220;<a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">Men</a> are pressured to know how to fix things<sub>;</sub> if they can&#8217;t, they feel like they&#8217;re failures. They&#8217;re not comfortable with being out of control and helpless. When they think they&#8217;re losing their grip, they get angry with themselves. And so they don&#8217;t allow themselves to grieve.&#8221;</p>
<p>The poor dears. How ever do they manage to muddle through <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/life/">life</a> crises with such squashed, underdeveloped emotions? We&#8217;re glad you asked. We talked to about a million <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">men</a> (okay, fifty) and asked them how they said good-bye to love. We requested them to describe in graphic, excruciating detail how they coped—or didn&#8217;t cope—with heartbreak. As we suspected, each one of our respondents reported significant post-breakup angst. Each admitted that, after <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/she/">She</a> left, his <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/life/">life</a> was undeniably altered in some way. &#8220;<a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">Men</a> and women suffer in pretty much the same way,&#8221; said one guy. &#8220;The only difference is, women cry. <a href="http://dating.sout.co.uk/tag/men/">Men</a> get drunk first, then cry, <em>then </em>hunt her down.&#8221; Which is not as far from the truth as you might think. After poring over the findings of our informal survey, we&#8217;ve surmised that guys make five major pit stops en route to heartbreak. Sure, some guys might forgo a stop or two. Some guys might get lost along the way and—perish the thought of asking for directions— wander around for a while before they get back on the right track.</p>
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